both cento and sonnet. If I ask you to explain this, I am sure you will say, âA good poem is a good poem,â or some such platitude.
TH: A good poem is a good poem.
CK: Instead I would like you to address the diversity that seems more than anything to have guided your decisions. A formal poem here, an experimental poem there, a poem by a âperson of colorâ here, a poem by an old white guy thereâhow is anyone to really understand the essence of âAmerican Poetryâ if it amounts to a gumbo and get-along of choices?
TH: Some might say memory is the soul of imagination; that we seldom can imagine something before we have remembered an experience of it, a sense of it.
CK: Who says that?
TH [ignoring the question]: But letâs consider diversity as possibly the soul of imagination. Iâm not ashamed to say I wanted a diverse mix. In my introduction I describe my poetic tastes as something like a yard with a fence I cannot see. If I leave my porch and walk over a few hills, cross a few rivers, I suspect I will find my border: the place where I say this is a poem, this is not . But ultimately, I want my yard to be bigger not smaller, and this editing process made that possible. Still, Iâm sure you can find styles or schools I left out.
CK: Some of your choices could be construed as political. I amreminded of Harold Bloomâs pugnacious introduction to The Best of the Best American Poetry 1988â1997 whereinâ
TH: Where while decrying political poetry, Bloom writes one of the most political introductions in the seriesâ
CK: Is that how you read his introduction?
TH: Iâll stick with my fenced yard analogy. Bloomâs fence comes right up to his door. Which would be fine if he wasnât such an anxious neighborâthe sort who not only confiscates the balls inadvertently tossed inside his fence, but also means to outlaw any ball games he doesnât recognize.
CK: Bloomâs fervor is admirable. Like me, he is one of the few scholars paying attention to contemporary poetry. What, it must be asked, do you think is the function of the critic in an ever-uncritical culture?
TH: I donât mind critics. Thatâs why youâre here in advance of the critics and reviewers at the door. But do we really need someone to police the boundaries of poetry? Iâm not saying that Adrienne Richâs 1996 volume was, like, the best of the best, but Bloom became narrow and polemical as he accused Rich of being narrow and polemical. It just wasnât a very generous introduction. If there is no generosity toward the arts, there is no Art.
CK: Fine. I happen to think Bloom is invaluable to poets. But enough of that. You have a political cento in your introduction. Letâs hear that one before I order another bottle of wine. The Argentinian Malbec?
TH:
POLITICAL CENTO
It takes an American to do really big things. | For just a moment, imagine yourself as an Iraqi living in Baghdad. | dance backward toward town, down the long dirt road | Attack, back off, and then | GO GO GO GO | I believe in life as sure as I believe in death | I know why he is in ache. | How can a piece of knowledge be stupid | Itâs all Romeo and Julietâhate crimes, booty calls, political assassinations. | All thumbs. All bicoastal and discreet and masculine and muscular.| so much to be learned and even more to be researched. | I know some readers need to see their lives reflected on the page | Iâll spend the rest of the week closing an eye to the world | Let that be true.
CK: Well. I donât know how âpoliticalâ that is. But you also selected a poem inspired by the Trayvon Martin story: Jon Sandsâs âDecoded.â
TH: Yes, thatâs a terrific poem.
CK: Is it not too topical?
TH: Itâs ingeniously structured. It shows us just how complicated a political poemâI donât think I trust that descriptorâcan be. Actually, I think Patricia