donât know. I just feel tired.ââ CATHY : Many people feel that. Itâs an aspect of age. It has a name. ANN (Reads) : âAll things have a name. Or they would not exist in our consciousness. If they exist without a name, then we must name them. At whatever cost.â Who wrote that? CATHY : Yes. I wrote it. ANN : What does it mean? CATHY : Youth is foolish. Youth can and must be controlled. Iâve said that. ANN : For good or ill. CATHY : As most things. ANN : And âYouth Unfettered . . .â CATHY : Yes, all right. ANN : Finish it. âYouth Unfettered . . .â CATHY : I do not deny. Iâve never denied. That I said or that I did those things. Never. You . As much as I. Have perhaps done things. In your life. Which you regret. ANN : What have I done? CATHY : I donât know. You know. Your actions could not have been as bad as mine. I would not think. I donât know what they were. ANN : You say mine could not have been as bad as yours. CATHY : Many have, aggrandized this or that minor act, disloyalty, desertion, and thought these fantasies were . . . ANN : . . . fantasies . . . CATHY : Unforgivable. And scourged themselves. Like the nun with sexual thoughts. But fantasy is not sin. ANN : . . . you . . . CATHY : But I have actually sinned. And have been punished for it. ANN : And does that cleanse you? CATHY : The punishment? No. ANN : What could cleanse you? CATHY : Nothing but Christ. (The phone rings.) ANN (Into the phone) : Yes? No, I know theyâre here. (Pause) No. Iâll tell you. (She hangs up. Pause.) CATHY : Iâm sorry. That I am taking up so much of your time. And I thank you for your time. ANN : Youâre quite welcome. (Pause) You said that Christ would cleanse you. CATHY : Christ has cleansed me. ANN : How? CATHY : Truly? ANN : Yes. How? CATHY : Through His Blood, which means, through repentance. ANN : With respect. How would one credit it? CATHY : I did not ask you to credit it. ANN : For, again with respect, one often hears the story . . . CATHY : Yes, I understand . . . ANN : Repeated here . . . CATHY : I donât ask you to credit it. ANN : But you brought it up. CATHY : In answer to your question. ANN : You wrote that you adore your Savior. CATHY : Youâd be within your right to doubt it. ANN : Would I? CATHY : As you say, itâs a common ruse. ANN : But I might credit it because of your book? CATHY : You might. ANN : What would impede me? CATHY : If the book were written to impress. Or to delude. Or . . . ANN : . . . yes? CATHY : Or you might credit it because of my behavior. Because of my acts while here. ANN : What if they were done to impress? CATHY : What if the actions of Saints were done to impress? We donât know their motives. Or from delusion. The Prophets were demonstrably mad. ANN : They were Mad? CATHY : Theyâd seen God . ANN : Have you seen God? CATHY : I would like to see my father. ANN : Have you seen God? CATHY : Your question is if I am mad? . . . Because I found some understanding. ANN : All right that . . .? CATHY : That however much we suffer. We could not suffer as completely as He. ANN : As Jesus. CATHY : Yes. ANN : And is that âFinding Godâ? CATHY : I donât know if itâs finding God. But I know itâs the meaning of The Christ. (Pause) I would like to see my father. ANN : I know. Heâs unwell. Cathy : Heâs dying. ANN : Yes. Itâs been in the press. CATHY : I would like to talk to him. ANN : What would Mrs. Anderson say? CATHY : Is that important? ANN : What would she say? CATHY : Is she here? ANN : Of course. CATHY : How is she? ANN : What would she say to your request? CATHY : We know what sheâd say. ANN : And is she incorrect? (Pause.) You say that youâd like to see your father. CATHY : Yes. ANN : After all this time. CATHY : Iâd like to talk with him. ANN : About what? CATHY