heâd like to keep two paintings in back room racks to show to Leo Castelli.
Ivan, I found out, had started working for Castelli in â59. âI was working with Martha Jackson then,â he told me, âandMichael Sonnabend came to me one day and said, âIvan, youâre much too good for this, come have lunch with me and some friends.â I said, âIâll do anything for lunch.â And it was the Carlyle, which Iâd never been to, with very thick tablecloths and napkins, and standoffish, slightly disdainful waiters, and Iâll do anything for a lunch like that, so I went to work for Leo Castelli, who was then still married to Ileana. [She later became Ileana Sonnabend.] With my first paycheck, I bought a new suit.â
Leo had an art history background and a very good visual sense, but it was Ivan who got him to be adventurous, to poke around new artistsâ studios. Ivan was young and open to new possibilities; he wasnât locked into any strict art philosophy.
Ivan managed to be âlightâ without being frivolous. And he was so good with words. His whole manner was like a witty aside, and people loved it. His loose, personal style of art dealing went perfectly with the Pop Art style. Years later I figured out why he was such a successful art dealerâthis may sound strange, but I believe it was because art was his second love. He seemed to love literature more, and he put the serious side of his nature into that. During the sixties he wrote
five novels
âthatâs a lot of writing. Some people are even better at their second love than their first, maybe because when they care too much, it freezes them, but knowing thereâs something theyâd rather be doing gives them a certain freedom. Anyway, thatâs my theory about Ivanâs success.
In the late postâAbstract Expressionist days, the days right before Pop, there were only a few people in the art world who knew who was good, and the people who were good knew who else was good. It was all like private information; the art public hadnât picked up on it yet. One incident especially brought home to me how low the general art world awareness was.
De had met Frank Stella when Frank was an undergraduate at Princeton, and they had stayed good friends. (De reminded me that heâd once brought Frank to my house and Iâd pointed at a small painting of his that he had with him and said, âIâll take six of those.â I donât remember that, but it must have happened, because I do have six of that painting.) One of Frankâs black paintings hung in Deâs apartment on East 92nd Street. Around the corner from De lived a famous psychiatrist couple who Iâll call Hildegarde and Irwin. They were whatâs known as straight eclectic Freudians. I tagged along with De to a few parties that they gave, and those parties were just remarkable: the guests who werenât psychiatrists were all black people from the UN or UNESCOââall do-gooding groups,â as De put it. He used to laugh and swear that over the years, at all of their parties combined, âIâve met exactly
one
attractive woman; theyâre a terrible-looking group of people.â
One afternoon I decided to stop by Deâs, and just as I got to the door, he was opening it and telling Hildegarde and another woman, a friend of hers who lived down the street, âGet out! I never want to see you again!â I couldnât figure out what was going on, because he and Hildegarde were very good friends, so I just walked on into the apartment as they walked on out. It was a beautiful snowy day; the windows were open and the snow was blowing in.
De explained to me that it had all started with Hildegarde pointing over at the Stella on the wall and sneering, âWhatâs that?â De had told her, âItâs a painting by a friend of mine.â She and her friend had burst out