of that: chasing women, drinking, and gambling. There was a pretty Spanish girl about my age with big breasts who was babysitting their kids. Billy wanted to bang her, but it was too difficult with his wife in the house, so he told me I should. I actually did wind up messing around with her. I think he got a kick out of that. I mean, he seemed like a cool, tough customer, but on the inside he was just a wounded kid who needed someone like me looking up to him.I recognized that about him, even at the time, because I identified with him. Most of the things Billy did were self-destructive. He never really hurt anyone else.
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W HILE I WAS STAYING IN J ERSEY WITH HIM, WE BROKE INTO a place in the middle of the night and robbed it. Billy always had some scheme or plan. âAll we have to do is break through this cinder-block wall and weâll be in the back room of the store where they keep the nightâs receipts.â So there we were in this back alley with all these toolsâscrewdrivers, crowbars, the wrong kinds of tools, reallyâtrying to hack and chisel our way through this wall. It took hours. At one point, Billy whacked my hand with a slap hammer and it started to swell up. When we finally crawled through this minuscule hole weâd made, it was like a scene from a movieâwe were in the wrong place. It was a grocery store. But fuck it, we robbed it anyway. We took food and soda, and I guess they had a little bit of money, too. I mean, I donât even remember what we got, but we got something. Billy was always deep into the bookies, always on the run from them. I gave him my share of our take so he could pay them off.
The really funny part is that the cops actually tracked us down the next day and questioned us about it. They didnât think we did it, but they thought we might know something. They said, âWhoever did it, they were professionals, because they bypassed the wires in the wall without setting off the alarm. Thatâs why we know it couldnât be you fuckinâ idiots.â When they left, I said to Billy, âThere were wires in the wall? You didnât tell me there were wires in the wall.â He was dying laughing. âThat cop was looking right at your swollen hand saying no way we could possibly have done itâand weâre the fuckinâ idiots?â
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O NE NIGHT, B ILLY GOT A GUN AND WE DECIDED TO ROB A bar in Stapleton. It wasnât really as premeditated as that sounds. We were just looking to do something, and thatâs what we settled on. I didnât even know why I was doing this stuff. Billy knew what he was doing. He was robbing a bar. Me? I was just trying to fit in with him. I sawhim as someone who cared about me, and I wanted to show him that I was worthy. Anyway, we went to this bar on Bay Street, and we were there for a while, drinking, playing pool in the back room, and plotting our next move. This is what I mean; it wasnât even a plan. We were just trying to figure out what we were gonna do. We knew we wanted to do something.
âShould we rob this fucking joint or what?â
âItâs still early. Let âem get a little more cash in the till, make it worth our while.â
While we were discussing it, this guy Robert Holder showed up, picked up a pool cue, and joined us. I knew him a little. His brother Dallas had been involved with wiseguys, got arrested, then flipped and ended up going into the Witness Protection program. This was back in the days when the Witness Protection program wasnât as full as it is today. Now itâs like the Holiday Inn; you canât get in. But in those days, it meant something. It was like, wow, the guy fucking disappeared. He ratted out the wiseguys and now heâs gone. Anyway, Billy let this guy Holder know what we were doing, that we had a gun and we were going to rob the place. I donât know what he was thinking, because this guy, whose brother was a rat,