million? [An estimated 5.7 million.] I think thereâs thirteen million in the world [13.9]. So in a sense, weâre miscast by definition, arenât we? Thatâs what a minority is: Itâs a piece of miscasting by God.â
Hoffman grew up unreligiousââMy father later told me he was an atheist,â he says of Harvey Hoffman, a furniture designer. Though they celebrated Christmas, one year he decided to make a âHanukkah bushâ instead. âAbout the time I realized we were Jews, maybe when I was about ten, I went to the delicatessen and ordered bagels and draped them around the tree.â
But when it came to Hoffmanâs neighborhood friends, something told him he should deny his Jewishness. âIt was so traumatic to me, before puberty, realizing that Jews were something that
people didnât like
. I have a
vivid
recollectionâliterally
sensory
feelingâof the number of times people would say to me (whether they were adults or kids), âWhat are you?ââ Hoffman pauses. âIt was like it went right through me.â He twists his fists into his belly. âIt was like a warning shockâpainful. And I
lied
my way through each instance of that kind of questioning. So here would be the dialogue: You ask me, âWhat are you?ââ
POGREBIN: âWhat are you?â
HOFFMAN: âAmerican.â
He gives me direction: âNow you press.â
POGREBIN: âWhat kind of American?â
HOFFMAN: âJust American.â
POGREBIN: âWhat are your parents?â
HOFFMAN: âAmericanâfrom Chicago.â
More direction: âKeep pressingâbecause they would. Theyâd ask, âWhat
religion
are you?â And Iâd play dumb.â
So he knew that being Jewish was something to hide? âOh God, yes,â he replies immediately. âI didnât want the pain of it. I didnât want the derision. I didnât come from some tough New York community where Iâd say, âIâm Jewishâyou want to make something out of it?â There was an insidious anti-Semitism in Los Angeles.â
Itâs one of the reasons he was impatient to move to New York, which he did, at age twenty-one. âI grew up always wanting to live in New York, even though Iâd never been here. And whatâs interesting is that all people ever said to me and still say is, âOh, I always assumed you were from New York!â Even now, if you look Jewish, youâre from New York. I didnât know that most of the Jews in America live in New York. But I did know it inside. I flew to New York to study acting in 1958; I took a bus from the airport terminal to New York City and they let me off on Second Avenue. It was summer, it was hot, and I walked out of the bus, and I saw a guy urinating on the tire of a car, and I said, âIâm home.ââ He smiles. âThe guy pissing on the tire must have represented to me the antithesis of white-bread Los Angeles: New York City was the truth. It was a town that had not had a face-lift, in a senseâthat had not had a nose job.â
Despite the cityâs ethnic embrace, when it came to open casting calls, Hoffman learned quickly into which category he fell. âCharacter actor,â he says with a grin. âThe word âcharacterâ had a hidden meaning: It meant âethnic.â âEthnicâ means nose. It meant ânot as good looking as the ingenue or the leading man or leading woman.â We were the funny-looking ones.â
I ask whether it frustrated himâbeing pigeonholed. âSure. But everything frustrates you when youâre not working.â He pauses. âI think I just gave you the glib answer. I think the non-glib answer would be how quickly you accept the stereotype thatâs been foisted on you: âTheyâre right; Iâm ugly.â You learn that early, before you even think about acting.